<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202</id><updated>2011-07-08T04:33:45.057+02:00</updated><category term='Normative'/><category term='IPCC'/><category term='Ethics'/><category term='AR5'/><category term='Moral'/><title type='text'>EcoPhil</title><subtitle type='html'>Considered thoughts of ecological philosophers.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>EcoPhil</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11860074808083466902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qeiilcovMH8/SQLNPit9uRI/AAAAAAAADXA/DvYbc72oeDM/S220/Bustos01.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>12</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-4871760707982547080</id><published>2009-11-04T20:31:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2009-11-04T20:34:13.616+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Story of Stuff</title><content type='html'>I just learned about the video "Story of Stuff", and I highly recommend it! Check it out at www.storyofstuff.com . There you'll also find other useful information about the stuff we consume.&lt;input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"&gt;&lt;!--Session data--&gt;&lt;input onclick="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" type="hidden"&gt;&lt;div id="refHTML"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-4871760707982547080?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/4871760707982547080/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=4871760707982547080' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/4871760707982547080'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/4871760707982547080'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2009/11/story-of-stuff.html' title='Story of Stuff'/><author><name>EcoPhil</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11860074808083466902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qeiilcovMH8/SQLNPit9uRI/AAAAAAAADXA/DvYbc72oeDM/S220/Bustos01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-4146560298097360397</id><published>2009-07-31T12:41:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2009-07-31T12:42:17.285+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Global Warming Swindle: Really???</title><content type='html'>&lt;embed id="VideoPlayback" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=288952680655100870&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=true" style="width:400px;height:326px" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-4146560298097360397?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/4146560298097360397/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=4146560298097360397' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/4146560298097360397'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/4146560298097360397'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2009/07/global-warming-swindle-really.html' title='Global Warming Swindle: Really???'/><author><name>EcoPhil</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11860074808083466902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qeiilcovMH8/SQLNPit9uRI/AAAAAAAADXA/DvYbc72oeDM/S220/Bustos01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-4473293254108888831</id><published>2009-03-27T01:02:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2009-03-27T01:04:53.182+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Moral'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Normative'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='IPCC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ethics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='AR5'/><title type='text'>Letter to the IPCC</title><content type='html'>Everybody is welcome to sign the below statement by sending a mail with your name, position, and institutional affiliation to roser@ethik.uzh.ch by Wednesdy, 1st of April.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The letter together with the signatures will then be handed over to the IPCC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ethical Expertise for AR5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;It is widely acknowledged…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;…that ethical questions play a central role in climate science and policy. Most recently, this is evidenced in the key messages resulting from the International Scientific Congress on Climate Change in Copenhagen of March 2009.[1] IPCC reports are full of explicit and implicit references to ethical issues, particularly in the context of discussions on sustainability. Important examples include:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-          global distributive justice in mitigation and adaptation[2]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-          intergenerational justice, in particular the issue of discounting[3]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-          usefulness of cost-benefit analysis in evaluating climate change[4]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-          the relation of humans to nature and questions regarding the value of biodiversity and natural services[5]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-          value judgements that determine what is to count as a "key" vulnerability and what level of anthropogenic interference with the climate system is to count as "dangerous"[6]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;We observe…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;…that in the IPCC assessment reports, ethical questions are not addressed with the same rigour as other questions. The analysis of issues with strong ethical components is not conducted on a comparable level of scientific quality as is the analysis of other issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is indicative of this general observation that, for the references given for the examples above, there is an almost complete lack of professional ethicists among the coordinating, lead, and contributing authors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;We observe…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;…that by now there is a large and growing literature on climate change written by ethics specialists. The first survey article on climate ethics appeared in the most prominent ethics journal five years ago,[7] and bibliographies with relevant literature take up many pages.[8]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;We therefore suggest…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;…that a chapter with a general overview of the ethical issues in climate change be included in AR5. Such a chapter should not arrive at specific conclusions regarding the morally "correct" climate policy, but should rather provide an analysis that can support political decision-making and facilitate structured discussion. It should enumerate the approaches available in the state of the art literature as well as portray the most relevant arguments concerning all sides of the debate. Above all, authorities in the field of ethics rather than social or natural scientists should prepare such a chapter.&lt;br /&gt;In case a chapter on ethical issues should not become a reality, we urge that, at the very least, in those chapters where ethical issues are expressly addressed, the expertise of professionals in the field of ethics is sought and that such professionals be included in the list of authors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[1] See in particular key message 4 at http://climatecongress.ku.dk/newsroom/congress_key_messages/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[2] For example: AR4, WG III, chap. 13, especially 13.1.2; AR4, WG III, chap. 2.6 (for an earlier example, see: TAR, WG III, chap. 10.4.5)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[3] For example: AR4, WG III, chap. 2.4.2.1. (for an earlier example, see: SAR, WG III, chap. 4)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[4] For example: AR4, WG III, chap. 2.2 – 2.4 (for an earlier example, see: TAR, WG II, chap. 2.7).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[5] For example: AR4, WG III, chap. 2.6.3; AR4, WG II, 19.3.2.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[6] For example: AR4, WG II, chap. 19.1.2.2; AR4, WG III, chap. 1.2.2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[7] Gardiner, S. (2004). “Ethics and Global Climate Change,” Ethics 114: 555 – 600.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[8] An impression can be gained from http://rockethics.psu.edu/climate/education/bibliography.shtml&lt;br /&gt;Among the many contributions by specialists in the field of normative science, salient examples of state of the art treatments include:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-    Caney, S., Gardiner, S., Jamieson, D. &amp;amp; Shue, S. (eds.) (2009). Climate Ethics (New York: Oxford University Press).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-    Page, E. (2006). Climate Change, Justice and Future Generations (Cheltenham: Edward Elgar).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-    Vanderheiden, S. (2008). Atmospheric Justice. A Political Theory of Climate Justice (New York: Oxford University Press).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-4473293254108888831?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/4473293254108888831/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=4473293254108888831' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/4473293254108888831'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/4473293254108888831'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2009/03/letter-to-ipcc_6016.html' title='Letter to the IPCC'/><author><name>Dominic Roser</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16866526449221528378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cgB-dRLvR9w/SUOIgGsO8PI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HwPKpJRQP-4/S220/roser.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-6420472419897044268</id><published>2009-01-10T14:50:00.008+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-10T15:57:08.520+01:00</updated><title type='text'>"Back to the Roots" or "Flight Forward"?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When I was a child, we considered a certain saying very funny: “Teachers help us to solve the problems we wouldn’t have without them”. Can we say the same thing about technological progress, economic growth and climate change: “Technological progress and economic growth have provided us with the greenhouse problem but they will also be the ones enabling us to solve it”?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are basically &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;two strategies to solve the greenhouse problem&lt;/span&gt;: The first strategy (The “back to the roots strategy”) advises the human race to consume less, to halt and reverse economic growth and to adopt a lifestyle of sufficiency. The idea is to decrease production which (given that emissions per unit of production do not increase) decreases overall emissions.&lt;br /&gt;The second strategy (the “flight forward strategy”) puts all its money on the horse of economic growth and technological progress. The idea is not to decrease production but to decrease emissions per unit of production and thereby to decrease overall emissions. In addition, economic growth and technological progress might also decrease the atmospheric emission concentration through coming up with better ways to build up up sinks, carbon sequestration, and new ways of geo-engineering; and also, importantly, by increasing adaptive capacity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The most important &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;problem &lt;/span&gt;with the first strategy (“back to the roots”) is that it is not “realistic”. The most important problem with the second strategy (“flight forward”) is that it is anything but certain that technological progress will be able to solve the greenhouse problem.&lt;br /&gt;What about the objection to the first strategy of “not being realistic”? A lot of interesting points could be made about this objection using the resources of the exciting research in moral philosophy on non-ideal theory (non-ideal can mean several things, for example non-ideal epistemic conditions or – and this is the relevant case here – non-ideal compliance and motivation of the actors involved).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I think from the perspective of an individual which (i) is willing to do whatever it takes to solve the greenhouse problem and (ii) has to decide on which policies to support, a lot of the huge and intricate discussion on the pros and cons of the two strategies and a lot of the discussion on non-ideal theory &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;boils down to estimating four probabilities&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;  P1: The probability of convincing humanity to implement the first strategy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;P2: The probability of the first strategy being successful if implemented&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;P3: The probability of convincing humanity to implement the second strategy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;P4: The probability of the second strategy being successful if implemented&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, in order to decide on whether to follow the first or second strategy (and simplifying incredibly), we have to check whether:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;P1 x P2 smaller than P3 x P4&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;or whether&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;P1 x P2 larger than P3 x P4.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is my hope that this sounds in some way &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;trivial&lt;/span&gt;. It was my intention to extract the core of this huge and intricate discussion between the two strategies of “back to the roots” and “flight forward”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that in current debates there is a lot of focus on probability P4. Authors and commentators (rightly) point out that if we put our stakes on economic growth we are making a gigantic and very uncertain bet which could very well go dead wrong: the chances that technological progress will solve the greenhouse problem are far far below 100%. And so, a lot of people stress that P4 is much smaller than P2, i.e. it would be the much safer strategy to mitigate radically by abandoning the path of ever-increasing consumption and materialism.&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me, however, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;that much too little focus is laid on P1&lt;/span&gt;, i.e. the chances of convincing humanity to commit itself to an anti-growth strategy. These chances are in my eyes so incredibly minuscule that they outweigh everything else in the equation. Just think of how much the most advanced economies groan and moan if in a certain year their economies do not grow or imagine how they wail and whine if their economies even shrink in a given year. Then imagine shrinking their economies every year not only by negligible amounts but by, say, 50% over the coming decades. And, further, imagine not only demanding something of this sort of affluent societies but of poor societies, too. The probability of convincing humanity of this strategy is incredibly small. And therefore, it does not seem wise to put much effort into policies pursuing the first strategy. (Side remark: This is not say that individuals are not under a duty to pursue the first strategy in their own lifes).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have left incredibly much out of the simplified picture (for example that there are other considerations – such as that the first strategy is the more “natural” one – or that the decision between the two strategies is not an either-or-decision). My only goal was to break the whole big discussion down to a stylized problem. This was mainly my goal in order to point out that the discussion should shift from P4 to P1.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-6420472419897044268?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/6420472419897044268/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=6420472419897044268' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/6420472419897044268'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/6420472419897044268'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2009/01/back-to-roots-or-flight-forward.html' title='&quot;Back to the Roots&quot; or &quot;Flight Forward&quot;?'/><author><name>Dominic Roser</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16866526449221528378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cgB-dRLvR9w/SUOIgGsO8PI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HwPKpJRQP-4/S220/roser.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-802158014478493486</id><published>2008-12-24T11:22:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2008-12-24T11:25:57.904+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Merry Christmas :)</title><content type='html'>A bit old, but if somebody shouldn't have seen it, here's something on the lighter side:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Q2UgEvK8oBY&amp;amp;hl=de&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Q2UgEvK8oBY&amp;amp;hl=de&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-802158014478493486?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/802158014478493486/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=802158014478493486' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/802158014478493486'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/802158014478493486'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2008/12/merry-christmas.html' title='Merry Christmas :)'/><author><name>Dominic Roser</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16866526449221528378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cgB-dRLvR9w/SUOIgGsO8PI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HwPKpJRQP-4/S220/roser.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-5633507103562909566</id><published>2008-12-18T22:39:00.014+01:00</published><updated>2008-12-19T08:45:15.412+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Externalities on future generations?!</title><content type='html'>It is often said that the GHG emissions of the present generation have &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;negative externalities for future generations&lt;/span&gt;, or also, that they involve &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;costs for future generations&lt;/span&gt;. That is: While the present generation reaps the benefits associated with emissions, it externalizes the costs of these emissions to the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to argue that&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; there is something problematic about the idea of "externalities" or "costs" to future generations&lt;/span&gt;. I assume that the concepts of "cost" and "externality" are understood in the sense that an action of A counts as imposing an externality/cost on B in case B is made worse off than it would otherwise be, i.e. had the action not occurred. So, if A listens to loud music this imposes an externality/cost on B because B is made worse off than if A had not listened to loud music. In such simple cases, it is clear &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;which two situations are compared&lt;/span&gt;: The baseline case is the situation where A does not listen to loud music and the deviating case which is said to involve costs/externalities is the situation where A does listen to loud music. A's not acting (i.e. not listening to loud music) is the case relative to which we compare other cases and which helps us separate costs from benefits (or, respectively, negative from positive externalities).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem in the intergenerational case is that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;we do not have an obvious baseline scenario &lt;/span&gt;which would allow us to separate positive from negative externalities (or, respectively, costs from benefits). If someone claimed that global emissions of 30 billion tons involve negative externalities on future generations, we can always ask: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Relative to what&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;baseline &lt;/span&gt;is the future generation made worse off by these 30 billion tons? And why is this the obvious baseline? Would you count global emissions of 5 billion tons or of 0 billion tons (or of -2 billion tons) as positive externalities or would you still count them as negative externalities?&lt;br /&gt;Similarly, we can ask how much the present generation has to save for those savings to count as a positive externality. Does any addition to what the present generation has inherited from past generations count as a positive externality? And, if so, why? Why should zero savings be the natural baseline relative to which saving more counts as a positive externality and saving less counts as a negative externality?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the non-intergenerational case, we are in possession of an obvious baseline: "Not listening to music" - or more generally: not doing something, not affecting the world, leaving the world as it is, in its status quo position. In the intergenerational case, we &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;are not in possession &lt;/span&gt;of some "status quo" of future generations (associated with not acting on our part, i.e. not affecting future generations) relative to which we could count worsenings as costs and improvements as benefits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, there is something problematic about the claim that GHG emissions involve externalities or costs for future generations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(P.S.: Some more things would have to be said, e.g.: (i) that I left the Non-Identity Problem out of the picture or (ii) that in some cases &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;context &lt;/span&gt;makes it obvious what counts as the baseline or (iii) that there actually is at least one salient baseline: the baseline of what we &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;owe &lt;/span&gt;to future generations).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-5633507103562909566?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/5633507103562909566/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=5633507103562909566' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/5633507103562909566'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/5633507103562909566'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2008/12/externalities-on-future-generations.html' title='Externalities on future generations?!'/><author><name>Dominic Roser</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16866526449221528378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cgB-dRLvR9w/SUOIgGsO8PI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HwPKpJRQP-4/S220/roser.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-6011166877615707927</id><published>2008-12-09T13:23:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2008-12-09T13:30:50.263+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Are Historical Emissions Harmful? Postscript</title><content type='html'>And then, there is of course a fourth reason why it is debatable whether historical emissions count as harmful: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The Non-Identity-Problem&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Problem in a nutshell is this: If in 1970 a people decided to pursue a policy of rapid economic growth which at the same time has a big impact on climate, this decision not only worsens the condition of persons living in 2070 but it also influences the whole course of history, including which persons exist at all in 2070. A given person in 2070 who would not exist but for the policy chosen in 1970 cannot claim to be worse off had a greener policy been pursued in 1970 because with such a policy the person would not be better off but rather not exist at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quite a mindboggling problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A lot of the solution turns on, roughly, whether one can understand "harm" in other ways than "making worse off". For a discussion, see Lukas Meyer's &lt;a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/justice-intergenerational/"&gt;entry in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on intergenerational justice&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-6011166877615707927?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/6011166877615707927/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=6011166877615707927' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/6011166877615707927'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/6011166877615707927'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2008/12/are-historical-emissions-harmful.html' title='Are Historical Emissions Harmful? Postscript'/><author><name>Dominic Roser</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16866526449221528378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cgB-dRLvR9w/SUOIgGsO8PI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HwPKpJRQP-4/S220/roser.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-945443844810524244</id><published>2008-12-02T14:45:00.008+01:00</published><updated>2008-12-02T15:24:32.554+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Are Historical Emissions Harmful? Part III</title><content type='html'>Here is a third reason why it is unclear in what sense historical emissions are harmful. This third reason has less to do with &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;how much &lt;/span&gt;costs past emissions impose on future generations but rather &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;in what way &lt;/span&gt;they impose such costs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imagine first that the amount of emissions of the present generation is completely &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;independent &lt;/span&gt;of how much past generations emitted. In this case the harm of historical emissions consists in the harm they do to the environment and the burdens for humanity that follow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imagine second that the amount of emissions of the present generation is completely &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dependent &lt;/span&gt;on how much past generations emitted. Imagine, for example, that the present generation imposes on itself the constraint not to let CO2 concentrations exceed 550 ppm and does whatever is necessary to just reach that goal (i.e. if the past emitted much, the present emits little and if the past emitted little, the present emits much). In that case the costs of past emissions do &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not &lt;/span&gt;consist in damage to the environment (since the present generation completely counterbalances excessive emissions of the past with its own behavior) but the costs of past emissions rather consist in the burdens to the present generation of having to limit its own emissions. The "harmfulness" of past emissions consists in making the present generation forego benefits (such as flights into vacation or the money saved by building a cheaper but dirtier power plant)  in order to keep concentrations below 550 ppm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reality will be somewhere between the first and the second scenario, i.e. the present generation's emission level will be &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;somewhat &lt;/span&gt;dependent on the level of past emission levels. And therefore the costs imposed by historical emissions will also be both: Damage to the environment &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and &lt;/span&gt;sacrifices of the present generation in order to limit its own emissions in response to past excessive emissions.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-945443844810524244?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/945443844810524244/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=945443844810524244' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/945443844810524244'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/945443844810524244'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2008/12/are-historical-emissions-harmful-part.html' title='Are Historical Emissions Harmful? Part III'/><author><name>Dominic Roser</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16866526449221528378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cgB-dRLvR9w/SUOIgGsO8PI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HwPKpJRQP-4/S220/roser.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-986761812038012203</id><published>2008-11-26T15:41:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2008-11-26T15:54:14.085+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Are Historical Emissions Harmful? Part II</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I said I would give three reasons why the question of the harmfulness of past emissions isn't that easy as it seems at first. Here's a second (and trivial) reason:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Past industrialisation not only caused damages to the environment but it also had huge benefits. First of all it had benefits for the people who lived in the past, but secondly it also  has indirect benefits for ourselves and future generations. When we talk about the harmfulness of past emissions it is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;unclear &lt;/span&gt;whether we mean:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Only the damages caused by past emissions. Or whether we mean&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Net &lt;/span&gt;Damages caused by past emissions, i.e. the benefits of the activities which caused the emissions &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;minus &lt;/span&gt;the damages caused by these emissions.&lt;br /&gt;Note that the Net Damages of past emissions might easily be negative, i.e. the industrial activities of the past might well have a positive net effect on human wellbeing, possibly even a positive net effect on the wellbeing of the present generation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-986761812038012203?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/986761812038012203/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=986761812038012203' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/986761812038012203'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/986761812038012203'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2008/11/are-historical-emissions-harmful-part.html' title='Are Historical Emissions Harmful? Part II'/><author><name>Dominic Roser</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16866526449221528378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cgB-dRLvR9w/SUOIgGsO8PI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HwPKpJRQP-4/S220/roser.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-5495266747289723074</id><published>2008-11-19T16:49:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2008-11-19T16:50:39.205+01:00</updated><title type='text'>5 min video from GreenPeace</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/G9HsU9X1CYM&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/G9HsU9X1CYM&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-5495266747289723074?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/5495266747289723074/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=5495266747289723074' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/5495266747289723074'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/5495266747289723074'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2008/11/5-min-video-from-greenpeace.html' title='5 min video from GreenPeace'/><author><name>EcoPhil</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11860074808083466902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qeiilcovMH8/SQLNPit9uRI/AAAAAAAADXA/DvYbc72oeDM/S220/Bustos01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-6626139042234694222</id><published>2008-11-14T14:07:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2008-11-14T14:27:43.024+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Are Historical Emissions Harmful?</title><content type='html'>In the past, the North had much higher greenhouse gas emissions than the South. Some people deny that this fact is relevant for the just design of present day climate policy. One of their arguments is that, by themselves, historical emissions did not really create much harm. It is only the continued emitting of today's generation that turns climate change into a real problem, they claim. But: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Is it true that historical emissions are not harmful?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to list &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;three reasons&lt;/span&gt; (in three separate posts) why this question is &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;not only an empirical question&lt;/span&gt;. It is &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;genuinely unclear &lt;/span&gt;- additionally to what natural science tells us - whether historical emissions are harmful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the first reason:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To begin, note that the harm from emissions does not increase linearly but &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;exponentially &lt;/span&gt;with the amount of emissions over time, i.e. doubling emissions causes more than doubles damage.&lt;br /&gt;Let us look at an &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;example&lt;/span&gt;. Assume that I come into the kitchen and I think there's no salt in the pot, and so I put a pinch of salt in it. Actually, there was already salt in there. But my pinch doesn't matter much: it just makes the meal a bit saltier (harm is of size 1). After me, my friend comes in and he, too, thinks there's no salt in the pot and puts a pinch in. Together with my salt, this now makes the meal inedible (harm is of size 200). What is the harm, then, that I caused? In some sense it is harm of size 1 because if my friend hadn't come this is the harm my action had caused. In another sense, the harm of size 200 was equally caused by me and my friend and so I could just as well be said to have caused harm of size 100. Both interpretations are reasonable.&lt;br /&gt;So, if we want to ask whether historical emissions cause harm we have to &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;specify the question more precisely:&lt;/span&gt; Do we mean the harm caused in the past &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;if present and future generations wouldn't emit excessively?&lt;/span&gt; Or, alternatively, do we mean the harm caused by in the past &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;given that present and future generations emit excessively?&lt;/span&gt; In the second case, past emissions can count as much more harmful than in the first case.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-6626139042234694222?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/6626139042234694222/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=6626139042234694222' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/6626139042234694222'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/6626139042234694222'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2008/11/are-historical-emissions-harmful.html' title='Are Historical Emissions Harmful?'/><author><name>Dominic Roser</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16866526449221528378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cgB-dRLvR9w/SUOIgGsO8PI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HwPKpJRQP-4/S220/roser.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120039895181232202.post-5328278673490899474</id><published>2008-10-25T09:07:00.003+02:00</published><updated>2008-10-25T09:36:12.949+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Welcome</title><content type='html'>This is my first post and probably not very interesting. However, subsequent posts will focus on some ecological issues that I'm working on for my PhD dissertation and possibly some other related issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Specifically, I'm interested in ecological issues that arise at the intersection between business ethics and environmental ethics; that is ecological problems that are caused by particular operations of corporations (both in the US and internationally). More generally, I'm interested in particular issues discussed within the field of environmental ethics such as 'the intrinsic value of nature', 'the moral standing of non-human animals', 'anthropocentrism vs. non-anthropocentrism', and 'sustainability'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, I hope this blog evolves into a virtual discussion regarding ecological issues instead of merely my pontifications. So, please feel welcome to respond to any/all of the posts here.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2120039895181232202-5328278673490899474?l=ecophilosopher.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/feeds/5328278673490899474/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2120039895181232202&amp;postID=5328278673490899474' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/5328278673490899474'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2120039895181232202/posts/default/5328278673490899474'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecophilosopher.blogspot.com/2008/10/welcom.html' title='Welcome'/><author><name>EcoPhil</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11860074808083466902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qeiilcovMH8/SQLNPit9uRI/AAAAAAAADXA/DvYbc72oeDM/S220/Bustos01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
